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Ishtarmuz’s rebuttal to Warof2010 posting 07/26/10 of – Our first mission, American Patriots.

This is Ishtarmuz’s rebuttal to Warof2010 posting 07/26/10 of – Our first mission, American Patriots.

The first thing you will often notice when you see a post from a bigoted Tea Party bastard is that the words are not sufficient to carry the message.  They need to colorize their words into red and blue with multiple font changes like teenage girls needing to hide their shallowness of experience, attracting narcissistic attention with whorish makeup.  Tea party English will have buzzwords and neologisms in abundance to cover their ignorance of the basic fundamentals of writing English and their lack of understanding of how to frame a rational argument.

You will see a fine example of this authoritarian narcissism exhibited by the Tea Party post shown below.  The first point that is made has to do with the number of undocumented aliens in this country.  I must first say that currently this alien issue is more a semantic one than a legal one in many cases.  My grandmother had a baby, my father, out of wedlock in 1915.  She went to Canada to have her baby and had the minister sign the birth certificate to avoid the scandal.  My father never knew this until he was forty years old. What he never knew was that she eventually married the brother of the actual father and my father had taken on his name never knowing the real story.  All my father’s life he could never prove he was a citizen without his Honorable Discharge from the Army.  Such a lack of documentation would swell the number of ‘illegals’ in this country to well over what the tea party want to contend.  They support legal measures that would make many such people non-citizens.  Some of us are bastards due to an accident of birth, some, like the tea partiers, are self-made people.

The second erudite point made below has to do with Unemployment Insurance Benefits.  Note first that insurance, by definition, is designed to pay out more than you ( via you employer) put into it for the few that need to use it.  This, like Social Security benefits RSDI (Retirement Survivors Disability Insurance), is an insurance designed so that of the large number paying into it, only a fraction actually collect, but often collect more than they paid into it.  Such measures were put into place to stabilize the frequent economic swings that put ‘free’ market capitalism into recession or depression leaving large segments of the population on the street.  The only effective method that has ever been applied to such depressive times, once in them, has been to spend money; and the only source of such willing spending has come from the government.  Short of slave labor, no self respecting capitalist would invest in labor as its value continues to fall. This brings up the other stabilizing enemy of the Tea Party, the union.  If the Tea Party had existed in the Great Depression, the 25% unemployment would still be with us today.  The unemployed would continue to own the street for the more fortunate.

The third erudite point returns to the undocumented workers.  There is a complete disconnect with reality here.  Citizenship is strictly the purview of the federal government as stated in the Constitution.  The problem of undocumented workers is a supply and demand issue and their employers need to be made felons for hiring them.  You know, all those fortunate anti-union people not on unemployment, hiring slave labor to support their way of life.  You can picket all those employers of undocumented workers if you please, but a few good court cases, a good boycott as well as your picket would be more effective.  Yet, even better, would be to have a consistent set of principles that would not promote the practices that you fight.

The article (Note that my skill at recreating the full glory of the original article is limited.  So you will have to go see it.):


Our mission, American Patriots

the APPP, has two immediate requests/demands of Congress

#1. First, simply for your edification:

there are closer to 30 million illegals in our United States. than 12 million.

IMMEDIATELY: make it illegal, for an illegal, to illegally solicit work,

anywhere in “Our United States of America”

*In November the extended/extended/extended unemployment benefits will end again

Don’t borrow any more more more money, it simply results in more compounded debt,

You must allow American workers to own the streets,
so that more-fortunate Americans may provide them a day’s work

#2. in the meantime, please don’t make things any worse, between now, and then.

#3. At a point in time, We the People, will want:

Illegal immigration, federal & state, laws, to be changed.

from a misdemeanor, to a Class I Felony $10,000 3-1/2 yrs


Facing Reality Fellow Americans

this is step #1 in our platform, We are the American Patriots

Patriots: in planning PATRIOT STRIKES every precaution
will be taken to protect our forces. more to follow.

1. DHS has a list of U.S. employers employing approx. 8 million illegals

“8,000,000 Illegal Immigrant Workers Working At American Jobs”

2. obtain the list

we have the list, 219 large/semi-large employers selected, so far

3. based on geographics/demographics,
and American Patriots, one business/per state,
known to be employing numerous illegals
will all be heavily picketed on a given day,
in coordination with job-seeking locals
in a quick, efficient, completely coordinated,
but unpublicized in advance, lightning strike
with every concern for safety.

4. Each state contingent will consist of a given-size picket team,
with an equal-size team operating in a support capacity.
(begin discussing contingent framework)

5. Calling all Patriots, from all organizations
to begin connecting, and cueing up, by state.

20-10 feedback/suggestions are encouraged

American Patriots, remember: “being right is fun”

We Won’t Back Down

P.S. Patriots, you may become aware, over time,
that advertising is not purchasable on your website,
nor is it permitted, in any form, with American Patriots
we must disassociate ourselves from money
our cause must remain pure in motive.

Our next mission: American Patriots
DENYING ILLEGALS THE RIGHT to solicit work on the streets of America;
this right s/b reserved for 30 million unemployed Americans


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Here’s what we are all about:

Taking Care Of Business

That’s what we’re saying


War of 2010 American Patriots: Mandatory Read:
Regaining Our Freedom


The tweet on my twitter stream that linked this article stated, “@MalevoFreedom @rascality @PiercedTedyBear @TheRiverWanders @ishtarmuz @MightyOCD YOU ARE PUSSIES EN MASSE”  Note that the Tea Party has quite an aversion to feminine qualities.  I suppose that it is a mixture of an inferiority complex combined with a fear of latent homosexuality.  One could well wonder given the name of the administrator and the Tea Party corporatist orientation, if the term fascist pig might actually be an understatement.

The Nobel Peace Prize, The Excluded Middle & Not Glenn Beck

The Nobel Peace Prize, The Excluded Middle & Not Glenn Beck

Aristotle said that people are political animals, that is to say they are social animals.  The recent Rasmussen Reports: on “whether the President deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and whether it is political” is an absurd poll.  The poll itself was obviously done only for political purposes and the questions reflect that purpose.  If we asked how many people believed in aliens, and then asked if those aliens were likely to back a Right Wing or a Left Wing agenda, then we would have had similar results. We could substitute any random idea for aliens here, but aliens will do. The real point here is that the idea that the prize is politically motivated has always been true.  What hasn’t always been true is that political motivation was not always a dirty word meaning that there was a hidden partisan agenda behind the selection. A valid visible political motivation would include that he deserved it due his attempts to change the world’s view on peace itself.  This can be seen by his acceptance speech, which has now disenchanted the Left as much as his nomination disenchanted the Right.

The reason that such distinctions are important is that they illustrate an alarming trend in thought in this country.  What is wrong with the poll is not the questions it contains, but the questions/options that are missing.  It includes no middle ground, no alternative options.  The question of the political role in the prizes can be presumed to have one connotative meaning and imply that the only alternatives are that it is rigged or not rigged. The answer that it is rigged flies in the face of it being considered the most prestigious award that can be given.  So one of my premises must be wrong or the law of the excluded middle is wrong.  The premise that people that think the prize is political, meaning it is biased, is flawed. The implication that it is connotatively construed as bad does not hold unless we would consider that people are paying more attention, think it more prestigious, yet think it is biased. Some would actually have you entertain this as true even though they don’t know the difference between Republican Theodore Roosevelt and Democrat Franklin Roosevelt.

So let us consider the idea that the political motivation is a bias toward the left. The oft-quoted error is that there was no Republican president that has won the Nobel Peace Prize.  Theodore Roosevelt was a liberal Republican President that won the prize and became Progressive after the disenchantment of his party with him.  The progressive roots of the Republican party run deep from its inception and those roots have been lopped off each time they looked south. Woodrow Wilson was a conservative Democrat that had some progressive ideas which emerged as he abandoned his Southern roots.  Nothing is black or white. The error in thinking is the same as in the poll. It is the fallacy of the excluded middle.

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